I'm a bit afraid of fire in Southern California. Also LA is kinda big city for me. Would it be San Diego, I'd have no doubt.
The difference in pay is because NYC finances currently pay way more than the other industries for comparable positions. But one needs to wear the fucking tie.
yeah, i am not certain if wearing a tie and being on time (early in the morning) is worth an extra $55k for me...
out of curiosity, what would they do if you first spend 6 months being a good boy dress code wise AND working hard on demonstrating that you are a super programmer - and then suddenly start getting somewhat more liberal? fire you?
They'll start "talking"/"sending you a message", then your manager will talk to you pointing out on dress code, you're becoming "not loyal", and loyalty is one of important things over here.
personally, i'd take the nyc job just to have a chance to force a friendly confrontation. :)
there is always a chance that one can win, and if not - they'll have to fire me for dress code breach and i'll be telling that story for laughs during interviews back on the west coast! :)
Compare the hours required/expected for the two positions. Also, you must be quoting the salary, right? Wall Street usually has Very Large bonuses, especially if the company is doing well. Am I correct to assume, looking at the numbers, that the bonus was not included?
В жизни хочется сделать интересный бизнес, но денег на жизнь нет, и немножко боязно, что если стартап не сработает, то нужно снова всё начинать. Вот и перебиваюсь с зарплаты на зарплату.
Я живу в NJ, где жизнь дешевле, чем в LA. В манхаттан меня совершенно не тянет.
Да, я живал в Сан Диего. Лучшее время моей жизни. На работе пашешь как папо карло, домой пришёл - отдохнул в бассейне. А желание к переездам в лучшие места у меня появилось слишком поздно, сейчас уже семья есть и дети ходят, так что чем дальше, тем особо не попереезжаешь.
nu togda dumayu stoit uchest interesy vsej sem'i. Ne pomnyu stolko u tebya detyam let, no shkolu menyat slozhno, da i potom raznica v 55K dostatochno prilichnaya, dazhe esli NY i dorozhe LA.
S drugoj storony atmosfera naverno sovershenno raznaya. Pervaya rabota mozhet byt bolee interesnoj.
A zhena rabotaet ili prosto tut bolshe nravitsa? Esli rabotaet, ved ej togda poiski nachinat tozhe nado....gemoroj
Дети - 4.5, 1.9. Жена не работает. Если в NYC работать, то я буду продолжать жить в NJ, где и сейчас живу. Фактически эта работа всем плоха, кроме денег.
nu mnogie v NY rabotayut, a v NJ zhivut, not a big deal. Mozhet vam v LA smotatsa na weekend, podyshat gar'yu i posmotret gde tam zhit realno, che k chemu i potom uzhe prinimat reshenie. Naskolko ya ponyala ili seichas ili kak govoritsa nikogda....
nu i kakie plyusy? ya dumayu esli ty imeesh predlozhenie iz banka na 175, to mozhno podozhdat i budet eshe shto to interesnoe v predelah 150 sdes? ne obyazatelno uezhat kuda to...
Здесь подавляющее число программерских работ связано с финансами. Я думаю, что через год работы на trading desk будут предложения выше $100 в час. Собственно именно это и происходит с моими друзьями. Что плохо - человек сам себя привязывает к определённой индустрии, его опыт релевантен и отражается в зарплате только при работе в финансах.
Из Pasadena я буду к вечеру на работу приезжать. MySpace находится в Beverly Hills, т.е. я рассматриваю Burbank, Glendale, Studio City. Это значит - valley, там жарко. И достаточно плотно народ живёт, отвык я уже от этого. Кроме того, у меня заскок на том, что апартмент должен быть в комплексе с бассейном 20 м или больше. Что здорово сужает выбор.
I would recommend neither. When your Green Card is ready: Create your own corporation (or LLC). Find contract job for $70+/hour in one of "mid-US" states, such as Nevada, Texas, Tennessee, Utah, Colorado, Arizona etc.
You'll get a lifestyle way above of these "NYC Bank" and "LA MySpace" options.
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Date: 2007-10-25 02:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-25 02:59 pm (UTC)Бенефиты примерно одинаковые.
В LA жить дороже, чем около NYC.
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Date: 2007-10-25 03:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-25 03:15 pm (UTC)Позиции обе типа sr. software engineer.
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Date: 2007-10-25 05:09 pm (UTC)А бенефитов лучше чем в банках не бывает.
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Date: 2007-10-25 03:29 pm (UTC)what's up with a huge difference in money though?!
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Date: 2007-10-25 03:37 pm (UTC)The difference in pay is because NYC finances currently pay way more than the other industries for comparable positions. But one needs to wear the fucking tie.
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Date: 2007-10-25 04:57 pm (UTC)out of curiosity, what would they do if you first spend 6 months being a good boy dress code wise AND working hard on demonstrating that you are a super programmer - and then suddenly start getting somewhat more liberal? fire you?
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Date: 2007-10-25 05:04 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-25 05:21 pm (UTC)there is always a chance that one can win, and if not - they'll have to fire me for dress code breach and i'll be telling that story for laughs during interviews back on the west coast! :)
NYC = bus + tie
Date: 2007-11-03 04:41 am (UTC)The one have to ride a bus all the time, and that sucks even more than a tie.
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Date: 2007-10-25 03:51 pm (UTC)Also, you must be quoting the salary, right? Wall Street usually has Very Large bonuses, especially if the company is doing well. Am I correct to assume, looking at the numbers, that the bonus was not included?
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Date: 2007-10-25 04:08 pm (UTC)Я живу в NJ, где жизнь дешевле, чем в LA. В манхаттан меня совершенно не тянет.
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Date: 2007-10-25 05:38 pm (UTC)золотые слова!
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Date: 2007-10-25 05:54 pm (UTC)А то в финансах здесь платят от 120K и выше.
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Date: 2007-10-25 05:49 pm (UTC)LA - 2+2 apt, 1000 sq.ft.: $2000 + gas + sewer + electricity (зато с бассейном).
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Date: 2007-10-25 06:05 pm (UTC)http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&ie=UTF8&num=1000&msa=0&msid=101120033244571157556.00000112333d278df8a0f&ll=34.14193,-118.464203&spn=0.206862,0.346756&z=12&om=1
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Date: 2007-10-25 04:35 pm (UTC)S drugoj storony atmosfera naverno sovershenno raznaya. Pervaya rabota mozhet byt bolee interesnoj.
A zhena rabotaet ili prosto tut bolshe nravitsa? Esli rabotaet, ved ej togda poiski nachinat tozhe nado....gemoroj
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Date: 2007-10-26 01:02 am (UTC)Re: dude
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Date: 2007-10-31 07:13 pm (UTC)You have more than these two choices
Date: 2007-11-03 04:54 am (UTC)When your Green Card is ready:
Create your own corporation (or LLC).
Find contract job for $70+/hour in one of "mid-US" states, such as Nevada, Texas, Tennessee, Utah, Colorado, Arizona etc.
You'll get a lifestyle way above of these "NYC Bank" and "LA MySpace" options.